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		<title>Comment on The Poison People by Pete Weldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Weldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T - Please add Miles&#039; tree scare mail piece to the list of lies and distortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T &#8211; Please add Miles&#8217; tree scare mail piece to the list of lies and distortion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am Voting for Ken Bradley by Pete Weldon</title>
		<link>http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2012/01/21/i-am-voting-for-ken-bradley/comment-page-1/#comment-6249</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Weldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie -

Thank-you for your comment.

I agree that the phrase in the email casting doubt about whether a renovated State Office Building that was part of the previously considered deal would be an eyesore was not productive. I am not a big fan of &quot;election speak&quot; attempting to foment doubt.

Yes, RLF is moving 100+ employees to Baldwin Park on what I have been told is a five year lease. I note that Florida Hospital also recently moved their administrative offices from the former Crosby Quality College building on 17/92 out of town but there has been no mention of that.

You are correct that developers can&#039;t guarantee jobs. Businesses are (fortunately) free to move where they please. We all hope that RLF moves back to Winter Park when their new lease expires. My guess is that the RLF management and employees that live in Winter Park want that to happen too.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/02/04/whose-money-is-it/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Please read this regarding the RLF deal&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/11/18/swap-realities-risk-return-and-judgment/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Please read this regarding the swap deal&lt;/a&gt;.

Former owners and principals of RLF are deeply involved in Winter Park politics and our extended social fabric, so I understand the emotional  and political aspects of that earlier proposal. However, from a factual stand point, representing the long term best interests of all the citizens (which is the city commission&#039;s highest and appropriate mission), the swap deal is far superior to the earlier proposal involving RLF.

I don&#039;t see where Ken Bradley&#039;s email on the subject suggests &quot;that the RLF deal offered no new jobs.&quot; What is too assertive is that his email states absolutely that the swap deal will result in 300 new jobs. There is no certainty as to this statement just as there was no certainty that RLF would stay in Winter Park for 10 years as suggested in the earlier proposal. Also remember that the earlier proposed ground lease was for 50 years with a 20 year renewal option.

Finally, I did not suggest that Ken Bradley gets all the credit for the city&#039;s financial health as you assert. Analysis of commission votes over the past three years shows that 76% of the votes were either unanimous (5-0) or super majority votes (4-1). I have specifically complemented all 5 commissioners several times over the past three years for their votes on the millage rate, spending restraint, and fund reserves.

Having served in several organizations I understand that positive results come from positive leadership. That doesn&#039;t mean Ken Bradley gets (or wants) credit for every good thing that happens. (Did you happen to notice Carolyn Cooper taking credit for moving the political ball forward with a first refusal on the USPS property? Ken Bradley has supported this too along with all other commissioners.) What it does mean is that Ken&#039;s experience and judgment (far from being &quot;poor&quot; as asserted by Nancy Miles) has proven to be effective. My point is that positive leadership leads to positive results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie -</p>
<p>Thank-you for your comment.</p>
<p>I agree that the phrase in the email casting doubt about whether a renovated State Office Building that was part of the previously considered deal would be an eyesore was not productive. I am not a big fan of &#8220;election speak&#8221; attempting to foment doubt.</p>
<p>Yes, RLF is moving 100+ employees to Baldwin Park on what I have been told is a five year lease. I note that Florida Hospital also recently moved their administrative offices from the former Crosby Quality College building on 17/92 out of town but there has been no mention of that.</p>
<p>You are correct that developers can&#8217;t guarantee jobs. Businesses are (fortunately) free to move where they please. We all hope that RLF moves back to Winter Park when their new lease expires. My guess is that the RLF management and employees that live in Winter Park want that to happen too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/02/04/whose-money-is-it/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Please read this regarding the RLF deal</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/11/18/swap-realities-risk-return-and-judgment/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Please read this regarding the swap deal</a>.</p>
<p>Former owners and principals of RLF are deeply involved in Winter Park politics and our extended social fabric, so I understand the emotional  and political aspects of that earlier proposal. However, from a factual stand point, representing the long term best interests of all the citizens (which is the city commission&#8217;s highest and appropriate mission), the swap deal is far superior to the earlier proposal involving RLF.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see where Ken Bradley&#8217;s email on the subject suggests &#8220;that the RLF deal offered no new jobs.&#8221; What is too assertive is that his email states absolutely that the swap deal will result in 300 new jobs. There is no certainty as to this statement just as there was no certainty that RLF would stay in Winter Park for 10 years as suggested in the earlier proposal. Also remember that the earlier proposed ground lease was for 50 years with a 20 year renewal option.</p>
<p>Finally, I did not suggest that Ken Bradley gets all the credit for the city&#8217;s financial health as you assert. Analysis of commission votes over the past three years shows that 76% of the votes were either unanimous (5-0) or super majority votes (4-1). I have specifically complemented all 5 commissioners several times over the past three years for their votes on the millage rate, spending restraint, and fund reserves.</p>
<p>Having served in several organizations I understand that positive results come from positive leadership. That doesn&#8217;t mean Ken Bradley gets (or wants) credit for every good thing that happens. (Did you happen to notice Carolyn Cooper taking credit for moving the political ball forward with a first refusal on the USPS property? Ken Bradley has supported this too along with all other commissioners.) What it does mean is that Ken&#8217;s experience and judgment (far from being &#8220;poor&#8221; as asserted by Nancy Miles) has proven to be effective. My point is that positive leadership leads to positive results.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Poison People by Pete Weldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Weldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T -

Thank-you for your comment.

1. Please re-read the paragraph about Steve Lester. My point is that he excoriates Florida Hospital and Ken Bradley without disclosing his long history of business disputes with Florida Hospital. I will leave it to you to judge whether this is a lie or a distortion. If you want a copy of the email he sent around town just ask.

2. I am not the one interjecting hatred and nastiness. It is because of those who actually do that I write in the first place. I assert again that Nancy Mile&#039;s campaign is one of &quot;lies and distortions.&quot; I know this because I attended almost every city commission meeting from which she takes her audio snippets and I know that Ms. Miles did not attend these meetings and uses these audio snippets out of context. I know this because I talked with Ms. Miles about the &quot;issues&quot; she raised on her web site and she confirmed the names of some of the people who helped her write that stuff. The people involved routinely appear at commission meetings attacking Ken Bradley with innuendo and falsehoods without a shred of evidence documenting their case. These people know who they are. They know they speak falsely in an effort to discredit anyone who disagrees with them. These people undermine responsible discussion of the issues and then tell Ms. Miles to claim she is &quot;fair and balanced.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/06/15/notional-accusations/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is a primer on the larger problem&lt;/a&gt; that will hopefully motivate you to get more involved.

3. I agree completely and an overwhelming mandate for Ken Bradley will move us even further in that positive direction.

4. The issue in this election IS Ms. Miles negative campaign. My critique is supported by the facts of her campaign communications and my personal discussions with her, as well as my attendance at numerous city commission meetings and study of the actual issues. A careful reading will, I believe, lead you to the conclusion that it is Ms. Miles who engages in personal attacks and name calling. Here is a selection of the lies and distortions attacking her opponent (not a word of this is supported by evidence or even thoughtful argument): &lt;em&gt;bad temperament, poor judgment, wheeling and dealing, sweet heart deal, bail out, closed the doors of city government to its citizens&lt;/em&gt;. Exactly who is engaging in &quot;nastiness and personal attacks/name calling?&quot;

You are correct to applaud &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/11/18/swap-realities-risk-return-and-judgment/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve Leary&#039;s letter&lt;/a&gt; detailing the breadth of thoughtful considerations that went into the eventual approval of the swap deal. Please compare that with Ms. Miles&#039; description of the swap deal and comment below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T -</p>
<p>Thank-you for your comment.</p>
<p>1. Please re-read the paragraph about Steve Lester. My point is that he excoriates Florida Hospital and Ken Bradley without disclosing his long history of business disputes with Florida Hospital. I will leave it to you to judge whether this is a lie or a distortion. If you want a copy of the email he sent around town just ask.</p>
<p>2. I am not the one interjecting hatred and nastiness. It is because of those who actually do that I write in the first place. I assert again that Nancy Mile&#8217;s campaign is one of &#8220;lies and distortions.&#8221; I know this because I attended almost every city commission meeting from which she takes her audio snippets and I know that Ms. Miles did not attend these meetings and uses these audio snippets out of context. I know this because I talked with Ms. Miles about the &#8220;issues&#8221; she raised on her web site and she confirmed the names of some of the people who helped her write that stuff. The people involved routinely appear at commission meetings attacking Ken Bradley with innuendo and falsehoods without a shred of evidence documenting their case. These people know who they are. They know they speak falsely in an effort to discredit anyone who disagrees with them. These people undermine responsible discussion of the issues and then tell Ms. Miles to claim she is &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221; <a href="http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/06/15/notional-accusations/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Here is a primer on the larger problem</a> that will hopefully motivate you to get more involved.</p>
<p>3. I agree completely and an overwhelming mandate for Ken Bradley will move us even further in that positive direction.</p>
<p>4. The issue in this election IS Ms. Miles negative campaign. My critique is supported by the facts of her campaign communications and my personal discussions with her, as well as my attendance at numerous city commission meetings and study of the actual issues. A careful reading will, I believe, lead you to the conclusion that it is Ms. Miles who engages in personal attacks and name calling. Here is a selection of the lies and distortions attacking her opponent (not a word of this is supported by evidence or even thoughtful argument): <em>bad temperament, poor judgment, wheeling and dealing, sweet heart deal, bail out, closed the doors of city government to its citizens</em>. Exactly who is engaging in &#8220;nastiness and personal attacks/name calling?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are correct to applaud <a href="http://www.winterparkperspective.org/2011/11/18/swap-realities-risk-return-and-judgment/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Steve Leary&#8217;s letter</a> detailing the breadth of thoughtful considerations that went into the eventual approval of the swap deal. Please compare that with Ms. Miles&#8217; description of the swap deal and comment below.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Poison People by T. Kitchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Kitchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. You do not know that Dr Lester&#039;s comments are related to his supposed problems with Florida Hospital. 
2. You interject hatred and nastiness into our WP election when you call people liars and distorters. In an incident of playground justice (which many believe trumps legal justice) I got my teeth knocked out years ago for calling someone a liar. I deserved it.
3. You are correct in your &quot;liars and distortions&quot; paragraph when you say &quot;Winter Park deserves better than this&quot;. WP deserves a more classy debate and discussion of issues - such as Steve Leary&#039;s clear, detailed and &quot;stick to the issue&quot; nature of his discussion of the real estate deal.
4. Maybe you can consider devoting your vast energies toward debating the issues and leave out the nastiness and personal attacks/name calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. You do not know that Dr Lester&#8217;s comments are related to his supposed problems with Florida Hospital.<br />
2. You interject hatred and nastiness into our WP election when you call people liars and distorters. In an incident of playground justice (which many believe trumps legal justice) I got my teeth knocked out years ago for calling someone a liar. I deserved it.<br />
3. You are correct in your &#8220;liars and distortions&#8221; paragraph when you say &#8220;Winter Park deserves better than this&#8221;. WP deserves a more classy debate and discussion of issues &#8211; such as Steve Leary&#8217;s clear, detailed and &#8220;stick to the issue&#8221; nature of his discussion of the real estate deal.<br />
4. Maybe you can consider devoting your vast energies toward debating the issues and leave out the nastiness and personal attacks/name calling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am Voting for Ken Bradley by Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, this is the first time I have posted a comment, but I was very disheartened to see Mayor Bradley&#039;s scathing email last night about the RLF deal, on many levels. Not positive.  (1) RLF has one of the most distinctive buildings in the City, (and at Lake Nona, MD Anderson etc.) and to suggest that after they renovated the State Transportation Building it would still be an eyesore is simply disingenuous; no one would believe that.  (2) RLF is moving their 100+ high-paid professionals out of the City, and to any economic development official, saving those jobs and their incomes that were spent on Park Avenue and surrounds would be considered net jobs.  To suggest that the RLF deal offered no new jobs and the developer deal does is disingenuous. Developers can&#039;t guarantee jobs, as the empty office buildings all around Central Florida show. What is guaranteed is the loss of 100+ architects from the City&#039;s core. (3)  To suggest that Ken Bradley deserves all the credit for the City&#039;s financial health overlooks the fact that the City swept $1MM from the Electric utility to shore up its books.  The decision to purchase the utility and how to structure its revenues was made long before Ken Bradley.
I am not suggesting Ken Bradley isn&#039;t a good candidate, but I am certainly suggesting the &quot;positive&quot; label sort of flew out the window this week with his insincere email blast, and I am disappointed.  I expect more from Winter Park officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, this is the first time I have posted a comment, but I was very disheartened to see Mayor Bradley&#8217;s scathing email last night about the RLF deal, on many levels. Not positive.  (1) RLF has one of the most distinctive buildings in the City, (and at Lake Nona, MD Anderson etc.) and to suggest that after they renovated the State Transportation Building it would still be an eyesore is simply disingenuous; no one would believe that.  (2) RLF is moving their 100+ high-paid professionals out of the City, and to any economic development official, saving those jobs and their incomes that were spent on Park Avenue and surrounds would be considered net jobs.  To suggest that the RLF deal offered no new jobs and the developer deal does is disingenuous. Developers can&#8217;t guarantee jobs, as the empty office buildings all around Central Florida show. What is guaranteed is the loss of 100+ architects from the City&#8217;s core. (3)  To suggest that Ken Bradley deserves all the credit for the City&#8217;s financial health overlooks the fact that the City swept $1MM from the Electric utility to shore up its books.  The decision to purchase the utility and how to structure its revenues was made long before Ken Bradley.<br />
I am not suggesting Ken Bradley isn&#8217;t a good candidate, but I am certainly suggesting the &#8220;positive&#8221; label sort of flew out the window this week with his insincere email blast, and I am disappointed.  I expect more from Winter Park officials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Right, the Wrong, and the Illegal by Pitt Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pitt Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some politicians run on a platform of accusing their opponents of every ethical misdeed in the world and the whole time they&#039;re plotting their own shenanigans. It&#039;s not all polticians, just a few. But it depresses civic involvement as citizens become unsure about whom to trust. It&#039;s a slap in the face to the system and voters. And does anyone wonder why we only have a minority voting in municipal elections? Here is one reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some politicians run on a platform of accusing their opponents of every ethical misdeed in the world and the whole time they&#8217;re plotting their own shenanigans. It&#8217;s not all polticians, just a few. But it depresses civic involvement as citizens become unsure about whom to trust. It&#8217;s a slap in the face to the system and voters. And does anyone wonder why we only have a minority voting in municipal elections? Here is one reason.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swap Realities: Risk, Return, and Judgment by Pete Weldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Weldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather,

A couple notes of clarification...

Steve Leary&#039;s letter above was sent by him and a link to the letter sent by me to many people on November 18th. So, it was available before the final vote on November 28th. Also, many points made in support of Commissioner Leary&#039;s judgment and opposed to it were discussed at the November 28th commission meeting prior to the final vote.

The representative of CNL mentioned Brasfield and Gorrie (http://www.brasfieldgorrie.com/) and CNL Bank (https://cnlbank.com/) as the likely tenants at the city commission meeting of October 10, 2011. There is no guarantee these companies will commit to a lease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather,</p>
<p>A couple notes of clarification&#8230;</p>
<p>Steve Leary&#8217;s letter above was sent by him and a link to the letter sent by me to many people on November 18th. So, it was available before the final vote on November 28th. Also, many points made in support of Commissioner Leary&#8217;s judgment and opposed to it were discussed at the November 28th commission meeting prior to the final vote.</p>
<p>The representative of CNL mentioned Brasfield and Gorrie (<a href="http://www.brasfieldgorrie.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brasfieldgorrie.com/</a>) and CNL Bank (<a href="https://cnlbank.com/" rel="nofollow">https://cnlbank.com/</a>) as the likely tenants at the city commission meeting of October 10, 2011. There is no guarantee these companies will commit to a lease.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swap Realities: Risk, Return, and Judgment by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most detailed overview I&#039;ve seen yet regarding this deal, I wish it had been explained this well prior to the final vote.  I just have 1 questions, who are the &quot; two well respected companies that will bring hundreds of high wage jobs to our city&quot; mentioned in Steve&#039;s letter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most detailed overview I&#8217;ve seen yet regarding this deal, I wish it had been explained this well prior to the final vote.  I just have 1 questions, who are the &#8221; two well respected companies that will bring hundreds of high wage jobs to our city&#8221; mentioned in Steve&#8217;s letter?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swap Realities: Risk, Return, and Judgment by Pitt Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pitt Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were a commissioner, I&#039;d recommend putting a sign on the SOB property for 4 months and sell it for cash. $1,  $100,000, $1,000,000 or $10,000,000. Whatever it brings in today&#039;s market.  There would be no whispers or rumors, The development would succeed or fail on it&#039;s own. City would receive impact fees and utilities. The Progress Point property would not be a city issue, like the SOB has become.  Then the commission can focus on delivering services to residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were a commissioner, I&#8217;d recommend putting a sign on the SOB property for 4 months and sell it for cash. $1,  $100,000, $1,000,000 or $10,000,000. Whatever it brings in today&#8217;s market.  There would be no whispers or rumors, The development would succeed or fail on it&#8217;s own. City would receive impact fees and utilities. The Progress Point property would not be a city issue, like the SOB has become.  Then the commission can focus on delivering services to residents.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swap Realities: Risk, Return, and Judgment by Tom Lawton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lawton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Steve, for your complete explanation, and Pete, for forwarding it to  many of us &quot;Winter Parkers.&quot; It makes me proud to live in a city where so many citizens care about our future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve, for your complete explanation, and Pete, for forwarding it to  many of us &#8220;Winter Parkers.&#8221; It makes me proud to live in a city where so many citizens care about our future.</p>
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